This document provides a spiritual interpretation of Revelation Chapter 8, focusing on Unraveling the Seventh Seal’s Mysteries; the opening of the seventh seal, the vision of seven angels with trumpets, and the symbolic meanings of their actions. It explores themes like divine judgment, spiritual awakening, and the transformation of consciousness through metaphysical insights.
RAM Reading 10-117
Channel – Prayer
Mighty and beloved Father-Mother God, as always, we seek to see and know Thy face. And as we seek, we find, dear Lord, that it is true, others first, Father, others first. And with this thought in our minds and in our souls, we come before You, asking in faith; we know we shall receive.
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What is a man’s place in that which is the scheme of God and why should God know of mankind? From whence have you come and where do you go? The answer to all questions lies within the grasp of each individual that would seek the Lord, serve the Lord, and be one with Him. All knowledge, all truths, all love, all perfection may be found within as the gift of life from the beloved Son Who has created in the name of the Father all that is. And all that is, is perfect.
Revelation 8:1
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
S In that time, upon reaching the activities that open the pathway within selves, there comes that time, being somewhat greater than nothing and yet next to nothing as considered in the whole of time. In that, the individual must face the silence, the nonmovement within the mind, within the body, and, yes, within the spiritual self, where the true contemplation and meditation then is formed and takes place.
Revelation 8:2
And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
S In that which you would know of as the akashic records and that which you know of as their keeping places or the endocrine system on the difference or diverse planes within and without of the body, comes the opening or the calling forth, which is then the beginning of the truth – the facing of self, the awareness of God, and the overcoming of that which would hold back the soul force (or that which is the true self in total) from that which it would pursue, which is the oneness with the Lord, our God.
Revelation 8:3-4
And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand.
S The soul itself, in the awakening through the activities of the individual, guided by the mind and the will of an entity, then acts as that which is a singular light, and in this case, that which is incense that raises to the level that touches the God-throne within, activating both the Holy Spirit and the Christ Force.
Q What is meant by “all saints”? Who are they?
S All saints are those activities which are saintlike within the individual or other individuals’ life’s form, life habits, and successes. They are those things that are the accomplishments, whether great or small, that are saintlike in their aspects, in their accomplishments, in that which they have done for others.
Q What is the golden censer?
S This is the deed or the deeds or that which is the awareness of the God Force, of the Christ. It is, in truth, the seeking and the finding. It is that which is the activity that is based within holiness, and it is that which in itself is fragile. For the misstep, misconduct can abolish it or remove it from the hands of those who would overcome this earth plane and force them to repeat the acts, the deeds, the rebuilding of faith.
Q Does the golden altar also have a symbolic meaning in this verse?
S It is that which is as a weighing place, the human system, not meaning it is base or wrong, yet lower than that which is spiritual, meeting the spiritual. It is a point, a place, an idea, an understanding , an awareness, an awakening.
Revelation 8:5
And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
S In a sense, this is judgment, a reality, an understanding of the deeds, of the way, of the force, of the envelopment of life by that which is the truth or the way and the means. It is that which renders selfishness and the ego, as the true ego of mankind, into that which is chaotic and from that comes the true ego of the spirit, or the real personality, that which you are as God has made you to be.
Q Does this happen daily?
S It happens daily to some, less often to others. It may be rapid. It may be prolonged. It may be as a flight and fraction of an instant. It’s hard to measure. For each and every individual meets a variety of understanding, awarnesses, opportunities each day, each life.
Revelation 8:6
And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
S This is meditation. This is that which is the cleansing of the mind and body following prayer, opening self up to the truth. This is the function of your system.
Q It is said that silent prayer is less effective than voice prayer. Is that true?
S Prayer is prayer. For most silent prayer is not as effective for the very reason that the oral presentation causes more of the attention of self to be drawn upon that which is being said. Although there are those who think that speaking the many words over and over and over constitutes prayer – that’s not so. Prayer is a thoughtful thing. It also feeds back into the body through that which is the capacity of the individual to take the auditory course too, you see. So, you are getting a double dose, you might say, of good medicine. However, for those who are attaining, are attained and attuned, it is all inward anyway and therefore the vibrations caused by prayer are inwardly directed from the inward source and very much in attune with the circular motion of the flow within the body of the spiritual-mental-physical forces. [10-116]
Revelation 8:7
The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
S The facing of that which you have done and those things which you have not done is an experience that cannot be put in words. It is that which changes an individual, in itself then changes worlds. It is emotion and not emotion. But it is a cleansing process, nevertheless.
Q Please give us some more detailed explanation of the one third part of the trees burnt.
S Well, in essence, the tree is your tree of life. It is that which represents the many lives, being as the branches, the leaves, the bark, what have you. The one third is inseparable from the singular or the one. As you must understand, all things are one. And as you are one with God, and as the Holy Spirit is one with God, and Christ is one with God, the one-third, then is a label rather than a fact. Even as we have a difference between titles of God, Holy Spirit, and Christ, it is for your understanding, not that God is fractured, but as a representation of the activities that fall in certain realms that your minds may perceive the more. So a fraction is given here just to represent that part of yourself as representing the entire self-facing the cleansing, which is what this is all about.
Q Does this also have reference to the three bodies, the spiritual, mental, and physical and representing the third, but the one also?
S This is correct, being as one also, as you have stated.
Q What does the green grass symbolize – “all green grass was burnt up?”
S This is the life in this plane or that which is the earthbound, not to say, once again, that it is wrong to be part of this earth. It means that you are spiritually truly aware of the difference between your spiritual destiny or destination, and this place that you dwell in physically, mentally, at this time. Note: we have not said spiritual dwelling place in this earth. It is that stage that you transfer your loyalty, your satisfaction, your feeling of need of protection to that which is beyond this place, the confines of earth.
Q Do these soundings of the trumpets of the angels refer to, in any way, to our self-judgment with the Christ sponsoring it – the Christ consciousness sponsoring it after we’ve passed on out of this earth?
S Yes, it is one of the meanings. It is also that which is the preparation in this life as to that which is the passing over. It is also that which is often seen within the individual that has certain feelings in meditation that herald the awakening of the forces of the spirit within the body proceeding to that which is the spiritual realm, or, as you might picture it, the light that goes out and up from you to join the light that is without, and you receive.
Q We’ve been given that Jesus lived in a state of constant meditation. Would the terminology in “constant attunement” be interchangeable?
S No. Meditation is necessary to achieve attunement. They are intertwined but are specifically different. Meditation does not connote a state of attunement but to become attuned you must meditate. To be as the highest, the constant meditation brings in attunement. Don’t allow goals that are not achievable to the individual at this time to cause or to stymie self, but realize Jesus the Christ was an individual beyond belief in your frame of mind and reference, see – beyond anything mankind could (or even the great imagining process that mankind has) could even conceive of. All the entity was doing at one time could not be relayed to you to be at the level of man, above man, around man, communing on a high echelon to be in and out of this plane and yet to be here for others as they saw time, to stop time, to speed up time for others, to create time for others, all at (which you would say) the same time is beyond the concept that we could give to you or others.
Q Would you elaborate on “some individuals need to have time speeded up.”
S You have heard that time is of the essence. For some in that mental-physical being, time is of the essence. For some in that mental-physical being time is a necessity, but also, you see, for spiritual growth there must be a compacting or speeding of time. For instance, some individuals require more protein than others and some more carbohydrates, et cetera. For some, time must be longer that they endure the experiences the more, while for others the enduring of the experience is not necessary and in some cases is conflicting to the growth of the entity towards that which is the spiritual release. [10-130]
Q You spoke of Jesus being able to slow down, speed up, or stop time. What is happening when we as individuals feel that time has passed very quickly, or time has passed very slowly? Does this fit in with that”?
S Well, you’re speaking of maybe three different things in your question. One being the psychological feel that time has speeded up, especially when thing you don’t want are coming your way or you are having an excellent, wonderful time. Then you are speaking of that which is the physical clock within yourself that senses you should go slower or time should be slower for the physical needs or forces upon the body. And then there is the actual speeding up by the mental processes of selves, others, yes of the spiritual nature that cause certain events, certain times, or the accruement within individuals, a need to have time speeded up for their good.
Q And if this happens, it does not interfere with other individuals?
S No. Oh, how to present……..? No, it does not interfere. Others don’t even know it’s occurred. 10-116]
Revelation 8:8
And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood:
S Another center heard from, another cleansing. This especially in that which you understand as the fire, you see (even as you have representation in stages of the Holy Spirit, or thought and work), you have here that which is so representational of the Christ Force at work, cleansing with fire that burns away that which is, in a sense, the garbage you have created, the litter, leaving that which is pure and strong, or that which is the refining of the fine metal in the crucible, leaving then only the purity.
Q Do each one of these sounding by the angels refer to a separate spiritual center?
S You are correct.
Q Does this one refer to the adrenals?
S You are correct.
Q What is the significance of the sea becoming blood?
S Your body came from the sea. Your blood is like the sea water. It is the physical life within yourself. How often has blood been the symbol of life, or death, among your peoples? When you cast aside that which is the life mechanism of this plane, of the physical body, and give it back to that which it came from, you have departed from that which is the pull, the grasp, the force that you have built within yourself to be a part of this world, this limited plane, this which is the ego-man or the ego-center or that which is self-want and desire.
Q You say life coming back from the sea. Am I correct in assuming that the Christ Consciousness created cell life and that this cell life had within it the print, the blueprint, so to speak, to grow and create and that we came out of the sea and then after we had evolved on the pattern until we were humanoid, then the Christ Consciousness allowed the souls to come in?
S Not quite correct. The building material came from the sea as you have expounded upon here. When the building material was available to the right degree, then those forces as proclaimed by the Prince of Love, by the Master Builder, put in effect those changes, that reconstruction, that became mankind. Now, as that which you would call humanoid, truly there are those that still exist and did exist, but they are not human. Even as the monkey, or the dog, or the shark, or the jellyfish, amoeba, protozoa, what have you, are not human. And yet they contain the building blocks that could be made into human form, a human way, a human destiny, welcoming and awaiting that which is the soul. This has been done and can be done again, if mankind will need a vehicle once again to ascend to that which is a predominant role in that which is a spiritual body on this earth plane. This may be as man’s choosing the destiny for those who stay behind and miss that which is the chance, the opportunity at this time or in this rotation of that which is the opportunity as you would see it, through the ages or epochs to be.
Q Is it correct then in There Is A River where Thomas Sugrue says that they took the anthropoid ape and worked upon it and changed the glands until it became a vehicle that was suitable for the souls to use?
S It was a building block changed even as you would take ore from the ground, refine that ore into copper, gold silver, manganese, what have you, in no way bearing a resemblance to its original. Only in that which is atomical would you see that which is a similarity, you see. For there has been that which is the change physically and to an extent chemically, and through the molecular change, but not the atomic change so much. You would find this in evidence within man and anthropoid ape, whereas you have similarity in that which is the skeleton, the skin, the musculature, the internal organs on a degree and yet the tissue sample themselves would not be identical or even near identical.
Q It’s been said that the gorilla’s blood cannot be told differently, I mean even under a microscope, laboratory tests, from human. Is this correct?
S You have similarities in many blood systems. And remember as we have given or as that which scriptures have given – this is that which remains the closest bounding, or binding, to that which is the earth plane, the earth needs, the animal, if you would have it. Blood, though it is the life of mankind and the life of the ape, are similar in that degree that they must be that which is the force that in reality holds both to this earthly plane. There is a difference between ape blood and that of man, minute but true, especially in that as you would find it in the degree of molecular chain that is especially found in the platelet or that which are the platelets. Weight also, atomic weight in the fineness, is much different.
Revelation 8:9
And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
S Once again, the journeys as the ships and the sea and that which is of this plane, the actions that are relative to the human outlook, the man outlook, that which binds to the earth then is destroyed.
Q Is there any value in our knowing to which center this applies, – the sea?
S Yes, As you approach just beyond that which is your solar plexus, you have the sea which, remember, the force of the gonad is often thought of as that which is the force that is most elemental or bound to the earth. However, the force of the solar plexus itself and that area is not the spiritual force that you would conceive it to be, as the higher forces are more spiritually inclined. It is that which governs or is a center for the use of powers within this earth, this plane. It is relative more to that which is the sea than other centers.
Revelation 8:10-11
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters: And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
S This is the acceptance and the awareness of Jesus the Christ as Master of this plane and of the Christ Itself, within you and within others, that would destroy that which is the self-image as created by yourselves in your sojourns in the many lives that you have attained to. The wormwood is bitter and poisonous to the ego, and many would die of same. But is not death but that which is a door to the glory beyond? Is not death that which allows the opportunity to a greater experience? Death to the ego, to the body, is bitter to the body and to the ego. But to the soul it is as the star has risen. So the falling star of the Christ is that which touches down, which opens up a vista of love, beauty and opportunity.
Q Is wormwood a kind of tree?
S Wormwood, yes, wormwood was more a bush, although there is another wormwood used also which is often mistaken for a tree similar to the Eucalyptus, as you would have it. It was used to purge the drosses from the body by you people in past times.
Q Then the poison is within the tree and the bark and the wood part – is that correct?
S This is correct. A pulp in the bush, the bark within the tree.
Q What is the significance of the star being called Wormwood?
S Because to that which is human of you, which is most of your awareness, Jesus the Christ brings bitterness. For you must rid yourself of that which you conceive is you to find that which is the truth of you, your real being. You give up that which are the delights and the wonder of the human desires and “needs” or that, in short, is like taking medicine that you don’t like but you must take to become well.
Q So that name was chosen because it was used as a purge in ancient times?
S Oh yes.
Q I don’t understand why we must give up desire because quoting the psalmist, “as the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul for Thee, oh God.” Is that not desire?
S Remember, the psalmist, those of the Psalms, spoke in the tongue of the day, wrote in the tongue of the day, even as you speak. Remember that speech in itself is a lowly thing. Would you compare your spirit, your soul, with that of a four-footed creature as the hart? You see, symbols, metaphors, and such are a part of language. They are those things that comprehension through the spoken word is given. Desire is that of this earth. There is a Godly desire, but you do not possess it for you have these untold lives of selfishness, of being the human that has established in yourself that which is a pattern and that pattern is desire. Your world, as it is seen through our eyes, is a planet of desire. It is a plane of that which is meant to be the challenge to the human tendencies, and the failings of humanity is desire. For desire is selfishness. Unselfishness is not desire. It is giving away that which is selfishness.
Q Would the longing for God be better termed “aspire” than desire?
S Much more so, much more so. [10-118]
Q And this center is the Leydig center?
S Correct.
Q Why was it given third after the solar plexus or adrenal center, whereas normally the sequence is reversed?
S Because you must understand, as given before, that you have been taught, or your rational mind has come to the conclusion from that which you have been given over and over and over through the ages that to raise the elements of God within yourself you begin at the lower center and work your way upward until the cup runneth over or that you have gone to your highest chakra. And yet, since there is no beginning and no end, you begin to realize in your search and in your own being that even though as an individual you may begin raising your forces at the lowest part of self, you might not have raised them to their fullest. For there is a limited capacity by self to the use of centers, much as a relay system within an electrical circuit where you bleed off through other circuits from the main circuit and roundabout then with smaller charges or flow, then, becomes one again as they merge. And also, that in the truth of the spiritual being, your centers are not in alignment for they exist on different planes and only through the physical need are they arranged within your body in order. For each center represents a lever or plane and it, in truth, in that plane waiting to be recognized that you may proceed to that plane. In short, you have a center that stands and is at the feet of God – if you would have God have feet. It is before the throne in constant communication with the angelic host and with God. It awaits to find all of these parts and bits of yourself that are scattered here and there through time and space. Therefore, the message begins to filter into the conscious, the true conscious that has lain dormant for so long. Hence, then, you will find here and there (especially in that which you would call this portion of scriptures) the signs, the awakenings to the knowledge that you do have within yourself, that order is not order as you would see it and sometimes that which seems to be disharmony results, or is harmony.
Q Then are these centers within each one of us connected to the centers of everyone else?
S Forget everyone else, though it sounds not spiritual. But, you see, you must develop yourself to benefit others. What is meant to the most here is that you are one regardless of your aspects. You are one in your centers, though they are in other aspects to a degree or what you might call a reflection. For as real as your body is to you now, it is not real, for it is a reflection. Your centers are a mere reflection or glimmer of your real center or centers in other places, as given. Before the throne of God in all those mansions, as given before, that you may find yourself in, there lies a spiritual center of self. When you pass over and let us give as an example that which you would have as a lower center, not before the throne of God, the very presence of God the Father Creator, but in one of God’s domains, there is that center which will give you solace, understanding, force, creativity, in that place. And as you develop and become a whole being spiritually, then you raise up that center to combine with the next center at a higher evolutionary stage of spirituality until all of you is at the foot of the throne of God, the altar of God. It is then that you know the face of God.
Q Did you say illusionary or evolutionary?
S Both. First as illusion, then as evolution as you progress.
Revelation 8:12
And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
S This is the thrusting out of self into that which you would call darkness. But remember, in truth, darkness is light. For you are strangers to knowledge, strangers to wisdom, strangers to love and understanding. Your light is as a darkness to the Host of Hosts, a murky place with twisted logic, foolishness, ignorance and selfishness. But in that which you would consider darkness (because your eyes are not opened) is the light, the truth, the love, and the way. Your physical eye cannot respond to the truth. It must be the spiritual eye that sees the light.
Q What is the significance of these different one-third parts”
S Once again as a part of the whole, giving a label of understanding that you face, not all things at once but a portion here and a portion there, lest it be too much for self to face.
Q What does the sun symbolize and what does the moon symbolize in this verse?
S The sun is that which is the light of your world for your body. It is good and life comes from it, physical life, but the same source of life and food energy, as you would have it, can be a destructive force within this world. It can burn. It can destroy. Without water, which is the water of life, which is the Christ, you wither and die and are then as a product of this physical-mental world. The moon itself is a reflection of glory. It is that which appears as silver or white. It at times seems to be golden. It is the changing, or the representing of the change, and changing in attitude, awareness. It is also that pulls this earth, that pulls that from within self, that can be a force of good, as you see good to be, or, that which disbalances and becomes a force that you would see as not so good or even evil as your stories, your myths propagate. That which you would term as the effect of the moon or lunar madness, et cetera, the stories of those bestial things that come forth from men, is as that which is based in the understanding that the moon has the power to bring forth in man the best or the worst. Hence, you have the stories of beasts and demons and yet you have your poetry, your songs of love and beauty.
Q This earth has been termed by some as the “insane asylum” of the universe. Do other planets have the same murky feeling and the same terrible happenings?
S It is a question of how you approach. For as you see in the physical self, if you were to approach, say, the planet Venus or Mercury, you would have quite a shock. But if you approach it in the spiritual or more mental sense, it would not seem so. For your physical understanding and body, this is a green and beautiful planet. For the mental self and the spiritual self that is raised to a degree – The mental, that is – it is not so beautiful at times. But remember, wherever you go, how you see things is a matter of faith and love. Don’t always condemn that which seems to be the insane asylum, though the Lord knows that there is little rationalizing of the spiritual within this place. Remember, to each is given a task; to each then is a key to a higher step and progress. For if you did not know the eccentricities of this earth and the world that you have helped create, you could not realize the fullness of beauty of other places or even the true beauty of this verse.
Q What do the stars symbolize in this verse?
S The stars symbolize that which are used as a light, as direction, as really hope.
Revelation 8:13
And I beheld and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, “Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!”
S The spelling is wrong. Woe, w-o-e, incorrect. This is “whoa” as you might use to stop, think, evaluate, be about a greater inspiration: a greater message is on its way. There is life, hope, love, prosperity. Open your eyes, your ears, for more is to come. Receive in gratitude. Stop! Listen! Be aware!
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And with this we give that which is the love, the beauty, the peace of the Christ.