Meditation & Prayer: Chakras and the Holy Spirit ConnectionThis document examines the connections between these spiritual practices and concepts. It discusses how meditation and prayer can influence the chakra system and facilitate an engagement with the Holy Spirit. The text explores the integration of these practices in spiritual growth, emphasizing their role in achieving higher states of consciousness and spiritual enlightenment.
Prayer and meditation and finding the Holy Spirit within.
Q How can we clear ourselves from the ego and the physical influences that prevent the Holy Spirit from coming through?
S Even as given to the channel r so should it be for each and every individual, and certainly the channel has not lived up to that which was given. That is, in the time that prayer and meditation become one and a constant living thing throughout the day, throughout the night, through awakening, through sleeping, will there come that which is the Holy Spirit. This is putting aside self. This is the contact with the Holy Spirit. This is the answer, the only way.
As we feed upon the spiritual through prayer and meditation and good deeds, we learn and become the Oneness, one with the Holy Spirit.
Luke 12: 29-31
And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.
S In seeking that and overcoming those hurdles, those pitfalls, that are put before you in the physical or the material world, and feeding upon that which is the spiritual through prayer and meditation and good deeds, brings to you, regardless of the situation that you see or others see you in, that which are all good things. For remember: this world and those things of this world are but the illusion created by selves to test selves, that you may learn and do and become, once again, that which is the Oneness, that which is the Light, that which is the Way – one with the Christ, one with the Holy Spirit, and one with God the Father – separated, not by the actions of a mind-ego that has developed through the wanderings through that which are the various material-mental-intellectual planes and objects
Through prayer and meditation and we are fed by the Holy Spirt and we then return to our daily walk of life.
Luke 2:39
And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.
S When you have met that which is prayer and meditation, and from these the rejoicing of the feeding by the Holy Spirit to self, that the Christ Force may come forth, then you return to that which is your occupation, that which is your direction within this earth, to work within that which are the spheres of influence, that which are the daily lives, not the pinnacles of power, not that which is as placed upon the marquee, but that which is the daily walk of life.
First we build the foundation based on prayer, contemplation and meditation and we will raise the Christ within. He will light the light of joy, love, mercy and peace within each one of us. The will of God will be known by our very presence in the land.
John 8:56-59
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, “Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?” Jesus said unto them, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am.” Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
S Would you drive the Christ into the hiding? Would you be that which is the desecrator of the temple? Or would you rejoice as Abraham to see the day of the Lord? For in that which is the foundation of your search when conducted in the proper manner through your actions, as dedicated and directed by that which is prayer, contemplation, and meditation, you will raise the Christ. Be not as the Jews as quoted here, or the established thought (for that is what the Jews represent here within yourself) and see only that which are the five senses. For this is what is meant by the fifty years. Be not blinded by these five senses but raise your being that you may find that which are the sixth and seventh senses within yourself that the Christ will not go out of your temple, but will light the light of love, joy, mercy, peace within your being. For if you find in meditation that moment of enlightenment, that moment of recognition, that moment when the still, small voice of love speaks to you, then the temple doors are open, and the Christ will beckon then the Holy Spirit, that, in truth, you and He will be one, and the workings of God, the action of God, by your choosing, will become one with you, that mercy and justice will reign within yourselves to the benefit of your brothers, your sisters, and that once more light will enter that which is the darkness, and life will overcome death, and that which is justice and goodness will reign supreme, and the will of God will be known within the lands by your very presence. And the subconscious yearnings of your brothers, your sisters will open doors within themselves that they, too, may feast upon that table that is set up by the Holy Spirit.
The Holy comforter, the Christ spirit that lies within, and the seeking opens the door.
John 16:6-9
“But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart. Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me;”
S You are your own world; you bear your own sins. You believe or disbelieve as your mind so adjusts. You have heard often that mind is the builder. How true! It is not what you eat. It is not what you wear. In short, it is not that which you dedicate to the body. It is not the rays. It is not the pleading of prayer. It is that which is the cleansing by prayer, the meditation, and the actions so directed towards your fellow man that will lift you from the morass, separate you from that which is the physical. For He has given you the Holy Comforter, yes, the Christ spirit that lies within, that you may discern between that which is light and dark, good and evil, joy and despair. It is in the mind that the dedication, the seeking opens that which is the door. For He has promised to come to you, but not on your terms – His terms. Therefore, meet Him. Dedicate that which is the body, the mind, that the temple, the soul may have that which is the awakening that is yours by right.
We do not know the Christ or the Holy Spirit, if we did, we would be released. In meditation God comes to us in the form of the Christ force.
Luke 19:41-44
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, saying, “If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, and shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.”
S Even the spiritual centers of self are under that which is the attack of world, world thought, egotism, selfishness. For though they are without, they are within also. They are constructed in your thoughts, in your actions, and that which you accept from your neighbors and others that come into your lives. Even the center of self, that is the spiritual center of yourself, does not know the Christ to the truth, or the Holy Spirit to the truth. For if it did, you would have been released by now. You would not have earned your way; you would not have learned the lesson; but you would have been released. Therefore, in God’s understanding and mercy towards you, you have been allowed to put the illusion between that which is the truth and the spiritual center of yourself. In those times of meditation when you go within, God comes to you in the form of the Christ Force, feeding you, expanding, throwing down those barriers put between that which is the understanding in the spiritual center of yourself, your soul force, and the Christ. There will come a time when we will expound upon this the more, for it is an understanding and concept that you are not fully aware of at this time, the ramifications and the meaning of same.
What is our intent when we knock on the door? As we knock on the door unselfishly, and we shall knock and be accepted that others through our actions, thoughts and deeds, may find the Way, the Path the Light.
Luke 22-30
And he went through the cities and villages, teaching and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him,” Lord, are there few that be saved?” And he said unto them, “strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye being to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, ‘I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.’ There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. And behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.”
S This is the warning that goes also with, “knock and the door shall be opened.” But so often there is a misunderstanding, you see. Yes, the door shall be opened. It will be opened to those that unselfishly seek and are about their Father’s business. Those in selfishness that approach crying out will not be redeemed. For then this which is spoken of here is the beginning again of that which is a new cycle of being bound within the earth. For whence comes all the prophets to give the sign that the times of old are over, that new times have begun again. And when you have renounced that which is the Way, the Holy Spirit, you have then renounced the opportunity. Therefore, seek each day to announce yourself to your fellow men by your actions, your thoughts, your deeds, that you have found the door, that you will knock on that door and be accepted – not for your selfish intents, not really for yourself at all, but for others, that others may find the Path, the Way, and the Light (as we have so often given). Seek and you shall find. And in the seeking it is by dedicating yourself to the search. Knock and the door shall be opened for those who unselfishly give of themselves. Ask and you shall receive in the name of the Lord, not for yourselves, but for the betterment, for the love for-and-to the rest of humanity, those entities that are within this earth.
Chakras, centers and the endocrine system and the Holy Spirit
Q What is the relationship of the endocrine system to the Holy Spirit, if any?
S Only as the endocrine system functions the more perfectly and that which is the rising within self, or the raising within self, of that which is the spirit that manifests within selves, the I AM, or the force that is known to be God within self, raises up through the body perfecting itself through the putting of self aside of the mind and the function of the higher elements within self is that which will contact the Holy Spirit allowing the Holy Spirit to pour within self, through self, adjusting using that which is the Christ Force within.
Relationship of the Kundalini energy and the Holy Spirit
Q Please describe the energy brought up and down the spine by the practice of kriya yoga and what relationship does it have to kundalini, the Christ Force, and the Holy Spirit?
S Here you have a manifestation more of that which would be called the animalistic or that which is of the lower spirit that conducts or manifests itself the more in inanimate objects or animal objects – not the spiritual force known as Christ Force, kundalini, the Holy Spirit. Lower than the I AM and yet a necessity for many to find that first which is the I AM, then work through that which is the kundalini.
Q The Holy Spirit is often referred to as a gift from God. Is this a natural gift from the Divine or is it an opening of one of the spiritual centers or chakras?
S It is the actual gift. For it was created. God separated Himself. From the Creative Force, He separated Himself, leaving that element of creation or the prime thought or peace and made manifest that which would bridge the gap between Himself, Herself, to thee through that which is the spirit, that which is the I AM, that which is the Christ or the Christ Force, that ye may find your way back through the gap created by self, that God can understand your element, the element of illusion, whereas the Creative Force, God the magnificent, cannot. The Holy Spirit, then, is wonderful, whereas God the Creator is magnificent!
Q Please explain how the Holy Spirit can be a gift from God and yet all men be created equal.
S It is the gift to all men, where those who would have it and follow the dictates as given by the laws. What laws? The laws that are issued for those who are trapped within illusion and those planes leading back to God. It is the gift. It is the light It is the way. And it is for each and every man to be able to take advantage of same. It is free choice. It is free will.
The sickle, the new moon and the Holy Spirit: bring forth our being through the Christ within and reaching within and pulling up the force that is the spirit through the endocrine system.
Revelation 14:15
And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, “Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.”
S This is the judgment upon the individual. For it is that time that the subconscious calls forth to the Lord God that it is time, that you are ready, that you have succeeded in meeting the Christ within and now you meet the God without, through that which is the Holy Spirit, which is the sickle which brings forth your being through that which is the Christ within. The sickle, as you would see it, is that which is shaped as the half-moon which is as that which is the symbol (though misused as the new moon in that which is the symbol of this group) which reaches within and pulls, from the lowest element to the highest element through the endocrine system, the force that is of the spirit, the soul, and God.
Q As the moon represents the subconscious, then this means a cleansing of the subconscious and starting new, anew?
S It is correct. For as often seen in this book, Revelation, the moon is the negative side or the dark side, or the shadows. And the shadows are made to pull forth, to make that which is the spiritual nature of self, work. Realize what it is and why it is – and the instrument has done its work. For this is the reason there is that which you would see as pain, suffering, missing of the mark. It is but that which is the sickle which awakens the spirit for that which is the harvest.
The Holy Spirit as part of the triad corresponds to the Thyroid center.
Matthew 9:35-38
And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd. Then saith he unto his disciples, “The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest”.
Q Must all things be in threes in order to be in harmony because we are in a three-dimensional plane?
S This is correct. But this plane to be in total harmony in the body becomes the sevens, even as given as seventh heaven, seven planes, seven centers. Though the triad is the three upper centers – the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Q Are there seven dimensions?
S Not in this plane, but there are seven heavens, that once they are in balance within the body of self, then that which is the flow to the upper three, or through the upper three, allows self to glimpse that which are the seven heavens. And remember, beyond that is totality of God.
Q Is there a physical realm and a spiritual realm for each one of the seven planes?
S Correct, and as given before in readings: then, as ye go to that which is the higher, the lower become no more. But the forces of same that are of the positive are drawn up to the top three, or that which is the triad heavens, or that which is the triad centers within the body, and beyond this plane.
Q Does the thyroid correspond to the Holy Spirit?
S Correct.
Q And which is the Father and which is the Son?
S The pituitary and pineal in that order.
Q Is this actually in these glands, or are these glands linked to a vibratory center?
S Oh, you opened Pandora’s box! Oh, how to explain. You draw within self from the outer self, or the outer planes into that which are the higher planes within self, or the higher environs that are representational and are actualities of the three centers, once you pull in, even as time convolutes into itself, into that through a corkscrew pattern, through those three centers, drawing towards one, and evolving to that which is beyond the body-physical, mental, and the body–spiritual within this plane. ln other words, you come in, you convolute, you become one, you actually explode outward and encompass all that is in the planes beyond. See? Pandora’s box.
The best wine represents the Holy Spirit within self, Cana represents the thyroid that gives the power of speech and prayer and the light that comes through the word. The wine also represents the blood as sacrificed for us.
John 2:1-10
And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there: And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage. And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it. And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was, (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
S That which is the best wine is the Christ, or the Holy Spirit within self, or the reaching to that which is as the higher elements of self. Cana, you see, is that which represents the thyroid area which gives the power to speech and to the body to put forth the prayer power and the searching word, and that which is the light that comes through the word to others. It is the vehicle for the Word as you would know it. Then that which is Jesus is asked by the holding thought, Mary, within yourselves, to do the cleansing process, the changing process. And regardless of what has come before, the Word changes that which is the spiritual understanding and opportunity within the body (even as yourselves must do). And then that which is the chief guest, or the master of the feast (which is yourself) may be amazed at what occurs within yourself once the cleansing has come through that which is the number as given, six, which is the teaching – but also the cleansing of the six lowest centers within the body that then there can come forth through the seventh the wine, or that which is representational of the blood that has been shed for you. For even as the Lamb was the sacrificial lamb in that which are the Scriptures, and Jesus the sacrificial Lamb of the Testament, so, then, the wine is that which represents the blood as sacrificed for you, that you then may have that which is the remission of sins. Then let yourselves be cleansed. Awaken to that which is the opportunity to claim for yourselves that which is yours by right as given to you by the Creative Force.
Feeding of the five thousand represents the feeding of the soul force, by the Holy Spirit in action.
Mark 6:41-44
And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all. And they did all eat, and were filled. And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes. And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.
S Even though, in the physical, there was the giving (and this did happen) of the fish and the bread, there were many who could not believe in that which is as the miracle of same. And yet, even as they saw, they could not accept. There are in the body and minds of many [of] those who cannot accept even when they see and feed upon the miracle. And yet, what is a miracle but the law of God in action. There is that which is the breaking of bread through that which is the sacrifice of the body to that which is the spiritual nature of self, the subjection, you see, of the physical, and the turning over to the feeding of the body of that which is the soul force, fed and refreshed upon the spirit, or the Holy Spirit in action, you see, giving to that which is the body the refreshment and the light and the life through that which are as the pituitary and the pineal.
Q The explanation given for the two symbols was the pineal and the pituitary; and for the five – the five senses. What is the symbology of the twelve baskets left over?
S This is that which “My cup runneth over,” pouring through that which are the mental conditions that can be sent out through the aware nervous system to others.
Raising of Lazarus represents the mental that must die to be raised into the spiritual. The stone represents what needs to be moved to reach the pituitary so close to the throne where we may awaken to that which is life.
John 11:11-19
These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, “Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.” Then said his disciples, “Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.” Then said Jesus unto them plainly, “Lazarus is dead. And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, to the intent ye may believe; nevertheless, let us go unto him.” Then said Thomas, which is called Didymus, unto his fellow disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with him.” Then when Jesus came, he found that he had lain in the grave four days already. Now Bethany was nigh unto Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs off: and many of the Jews came to Martha and Mary, to comfort them concerning their brother.
S Elazura, or Elazor, is that which represents the mind and intellect of mankind, in this place, that must die in that which is the physical understanding of a world to be raised into that which is the spiritual understanding of all worlds. That which seals, you see, the tomb of that, or the stone as mentioned, or is mentioned, is that which is as the pituitary, or as you proceed in that which is the spiritual development within yourself, is reached as Bethnia to that which is the short distance, you see, from Jerusalem, or that which is the place of meditation or the throne of God within yourself, that the Holy Spirit and the Christ may be as one and awaken within you that which is life. And that which is the sleep, or the sleep of death that must be absorbed by the mind, will only be that of the mind, rather than that which is the reincarnation cycle. For even as He, the Light, gave, there are those that know the Light and follow then the word of God, and they surely shall not die. And this is in reference to that which is as the awakening of the seventh center of the body, bringing the entities truly before the throne of God that lies within.
The decalcifying of the pituitary begins with soul forces to be fed by the Holy Spirit, giving birth to the true I AM.
Genesis 4:16
And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Q You said in another reading one time that some infants are born with calcified pituitaries. Then, I suppose, some are not. How does this affect the growth of the child, the spiritual growth?
S Those that are born with the calcified pituitaries must then respond through that which led them entirely astray, through the use of the intellect and the baser forces becoming a tool or the tool (as has been stated so often) of the will. To decalcify is one who takes the intellect with no spiritual earning, discerns through the intellectual processes that there must be the spiritual side of things, then begins to search step-by-step and in the search begins that process which decalcifies and awakens, once again, that process that allows the soul force to be reckoned with or to be fed by the external forces of the Holy Spirit, then giving birth within self from the primitive I am to the true I AM or that which is the flowering or the fullness of the true and full christed self.
The light floods the body through the pituitary. The Holy Spirit may change the ego when it gets in the way but we are the determining factor, through the will.
John 12:34-36
The people answered him, “We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?” Then Jesus said unto them, “Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light.” These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.
S And the darkness comprehended it not. It’s so true and it’s so easily done within yourselves that the whims, the fancies, the fantasies, the desires, overcome that which is the light within yourselves [so] that in the daily existence the excuses pile forth and then the reasons become great stones to fall over, or to bar the way. Rationale becomes that which is tomorrow or later, and yet the Light is the light that floods the body through that which is the pituitary as awakened, and the hurdles become nonexistent, the barriers are smoothed, though to others you may stumble and fall, or seem wayward, or strange, or physically and mentally (or either) unkept, unanswered, unhealthy. It is the condition of the seeking the Light; it is the condition of knowing the Way; it is the condition of believing that counts. For the truth is, most of those that have become enlightened have appeared mentally and physically to have malfunctions, as mankind sees them to be. For that which is functioning is beyond that of the ego. And as has been given, if you would seek to orient yourself to that which is the ego-centered world, and build yourself to the ego-centered world, to the ego-centered world you may become a beautiful thing. But God the Father-Mother does not recognize the ego of mankind. For it is illusion. The Christ may see it and deplore it and the Holy Spirit may change it. But you are the determining factor. Wherein is your treasure? What is your treasure? What is your God? This is the criteria. As has been given, it is in the believing, convincing the entire system of self, that God is, is the ultimate for the individual that seeks success.
Clarification of an earlier passage about the Holy Spirit: “So the Holy Spirit is risen.”
Q. In 185’s reading of August the 8th, 1972, the beginning words from the Source were; “Love the Lord with all thy mind, with all thy body, with all thy soul. For the Lord is love and there is but one way to the Lord and that is as has been given of old, ‘You must love the Lord. So, the Holy Spirit is arisen, so it is present now.” Please explain, “So the Holy Spirit is arisen, so it is present now.”
S Even that which is the touching of the Christ from within to that which is God without or the communication or the fact that self has used the will to put aside the mind, the body physical, and all the mental aspects of self to connect, or to put aside the desires and be one with the Father. This arises the Holy Spirit. Not as He, the Prince of Love caused it to arise but in the manner that selves may use same. Know it to be even that which was then (rather than that which was the babbling of voices unknown to others, or the frothing of the mouth, or the carrying on of the adrenals), but the Holy Peace that pours forth to others.
Q It sounds as though you said in answer to (185’s) question that we could be praying, for the Holy Spirit and yet at the same time acting in such a way that it can’t get through. Is this true?
S This is correct in all things that are of God.
Manifestation of the Holy Spirit: Apostles: Christ force within touching the God Force without. Often claimed inspiration by the Holy Spirit is merely adrenalization and all about “self”.
Ram Reading 10-010. 6-21-74
Q Could you please discuss the question of the Holy Spirit as it is used? We have these various fundamental groups that claim that they have been inspired by the Holy Spirit, et cetera, such as happened to the apostles as described in Acts. Could you discuss this so we have a better understanding of what these people are talking about and how much truth there is in it? (114)
S The apostles themselves were spiritually inclined by the Christ force within reaching up and touching the God force without which was symbolized by the flames upon their head, for this was the burning flame of righteousness that came as the Holy Spirit was at work. However, most of those since are adrenalizations and wishful thinking and wish fulfillment where the mind is in a crest of self-hypnosis, self-will, self–desire, and selfishness.
Q Didn’t Christ promise to send the Holy Spirit when He left? (146 )
S He did, but not as a frothing manifestation of the ego.
Q Does He send the Holy Spirit, and to whom, and how do you know it? How does one know it? (146)
S By thy works thou shalt know when He that is the Holy Spirit, God Himself, manifests within self and touches self and thy works will be as His works, see?
Question about statement that we can be lead astray in meditation, if it is for self and not for God, and not for the love of others.
Matthew 15: 21-24
Then Jesus went thence and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon. And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.” But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, “Send her away; for she crieth after us.” But he answered and said, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Q It was said that we could be led astray in meditation. If we ask for the Christ light to be around us, is that . . . ?
S If ye ask for God’s will to be done, if ye base it totally in selflessness in the Christ, in God, calling for the Holy Spirit, this, then, is perfection. But how many go into meditation giving lip service to God, and in reality go in to build for self- not for others, not for God, not for the glory of God, not for the love of brother, sister, but for self. Then this is vain and wrong.