Ram 10-010-1974 Spiritual Session: Channeling, Wisdom, Dreams
Dated June 21, 1974, this is a transcription of a channeled spiritual session that includes a range of topics such as the nature and source of spiritual readings, the mechanics of channeling divine messages, and the use of specialized knowledge like mathematics and chemistry in spiritual practices. It also touches on the role of the channel in spiritual guidance, fallen angels, the importance of self-discovery and personal development, and the interpretation of dreams and visions.
RAM Reading 10-10 6-21-74
Channel
Our Father, our God, look upon us with Thy love, Thy blessing. Guide us at this time that that which comes will be of Thee and none other. Send us the Christ, Oh Father, that He will watch over us and guide us and be our guardian. This we ask, Oh Lord, in love, in faith.
Source
Hear and know! It has been written by one of your own, “What fools these mortals be.” What is a fool? He that uses not that which is wisdom, uses not that which is the knowledge. Have ye not read, “Love thine enemy; do good to he that hates you; bless him that curses you; pray for him that despitefully uses you. ” If ye are the salt of the earth, the chosen ones, can ye act less? Is there one among you who could look thy Christ in the eyes and say, “I am free of hate, criticism, maladjustment, foolishness?” Would ye drive a spike into Him that is your Christ? Would ye pierce His side? And yet ye do- – even in this day with that which is knowledge behind you, and in you, do ye not sin? Oh, foolish ones, would ye hurt your Christ? Would ye defile your God? Find harmony, peace within thy selves, with thy brother and thy sister, lest you lose the way. Can ye be the platform of the return if you are not peace, harmony, love, forgiveness, patience, and understanding? It is time for ye to know yourselves. It is time to cleanse yourselves. It is time to be, in truth, about thy Father’s business. The opportunity is yours. Awaken to it or get ye gone! We are here. We are ready for this reading.
C Those present in the room are 110, 180, 178, 131, 101, 199, 146, and 114. The date is June the 21st, 1974, and the approximate time is 7:53 PM. You shall have before you the members of this group and answer the questions so desired.
S We have the inquiring minds of this group, and we will give that which is best for this group to know at this time, even that which is best for their souls, their soul forces, their mental conditions, and their physical conditions. We will give this reading that is sought after.
Source of the reading(s)
Q Who, or what, is the Source? (101)
S We presume of this reading?
Q I would, yes — this reading and does it differ from reading to reading? (101)
S At times it differs. At times it is as the highest level of selves, the superconscious of selves blending and molding. At times ye have that which are the messengers that come through. At times ye have Life Itself. Who is the Source at this time? I AM the Source, thy Brother Who was with thee at the beginning of all things and before they were made, Who has loved thee from the beginning and forever.
Q Does the communication through the Source take place through several different levels? (101)
S This depends upon what is given and through the means given, see. Even as that which is as the Source from selves (that is to say the highest nature of selves) , it pools , pours in, and flows through, somewhat di stilled by the density of the channel at the time being unable to fully put self aside. As through a heavenly messenger it is that which goes to them from the Highest of High and then is directly voiced through the entity, through the channeling of the entity, even as one would speak through a tube. As for the Source as it is now, it is through the placement of the hands, through that which is the entity to that which are the vocal cords; even for I, it is as difficult as the channel has made it to be.
Q Would it be a good idea to ask the Source of each reading given by the channel? (l0l)
S Is this not curiosity? But in those times, it is necessary to know, you will be informed.
Q At the last work reading, reference was made to ”even that which is the mathematic, the formulas, those things that should pass, et cetera”. Are there mathematics and formulas which are important in preparing the way for the Master’s return? (131)
S Just as mantras are important, hymns are important, prayers are important, affirmations are important, even sciences are important, even that which is music is important, that which is mathematic, and language is important. And this is why this channel must clear self so the ultimate may come through, may work through, even in the actions of the channel being a channeling in the actions in the touching, the healing, the raising.
Channel/John the Baptist
Q Is the channel the entity John the Baptist and again starting the way for the Christ to return? (101)
S We have curiosity here. Don’t lose your head over this one!
Study and training for channel and members
10.Are there particular areas of study that (110) should pursue to become more effective? (131)
s All those pertaining to that which is the knowledge of the love of God from that which is the religious point, the rituals, the understandings, to that which are even the mathematics, the chemistries, et cetera. For even as (110) approaches from one angle, so we approach from another where there is a meeting, then, of the minds, of the spirit. Then there is clarity and clarification. And even in the searching and even in the learning is opened that which would pour through, even the languages that are necessary, even the sounds that are necessary, even those hymns.
Q Would it be helpful to have entities with advanced training in present day mathematics, physics, and chemistry to be brought to the channel for questioning in greater depth? (131)
S (110) must seek only to the level that the entity may work with at that. time for (110) at this time is ill prepared for this reading; not in the physical, as you would understand, but more in the mental condition, of having too much upon the mind over these days. There must be more patience in self, more rest in self, even the bodily rest to more degree; less attention to the minute details of life, even less of that which is taking on the problems and procedures of others, should be well put aside, so this one might study the more, understand the more, even to the fact that this entity should watch less of the television, read less of the newspapers and develop more in that which is the spiritual lines and conditioning.
Q Is there anything that we should study especially, or work on especially, for our next meeting? (146)
S Yourselves! Even as we brought into the opening statement. There is not one, not one present, that has not fallen short of the glory of the Father. At least attempt same.
Q The native King Raai of Egypt who surrendered to Ra-Ta and Ararat at the time of their invasion demonstrated a, I think, principle of peace and I was wondering if he was an earlier incarnation of Jesus, or one close to the Master. (131)
S That was an experience, yes.
Index/reference system
Q Would a code number or code word cross reference system be useful in bringing through specialized knowledge requiring a specialized vocabulary? Such a system could be built around specialized dictionaries. (131)
S This is quite probable and quite possible. As this entity, (110), frees self-there will be the flow that will even explain the flow of terminology, of works, of symbols, and turn them into the more concrete understanding of those people here and those people that will be exposed to same.
Editing readings
Q The Source has stated several times (or mentioned several times) the difficulties in communication, in using the right words, the right phrases, and even the right language. If we find that the Source has inadvertently used a word that doesn’t quite fit, could we substitute the word that conveys the meaning intended if we clear this with the channel? (178)
S This is correct.
Q One example would be phosaphates instead of phosphates. (178)
S Phosphates, correct.
Q Inasmuch as I’m the one that does the typing and I’m not able to get a recording tonight because of the squeal , could the channel help me figure out what’s wrong? (l78)
S Use another tape recorder!
Channel serving on a board
Q Would it be advantageous for this entity to withdraw the request for (110) to serve on the board of (805) and thereby relieve him of that responsibility? (114)
Not at this time, but in the future, there must be a lessening of the outer involvements of this entity, even that which is the occupation, see.
Days for the group to meet
Q Since our days are numbered artificially by man it seems to be all right if we can’t meet on a day that numbers “ten”, to meet at some other time. Is that correct? (146)
S There is no numbering to God’s days. We only suggested that, so that there could be a meeting of the minds, a meeting of the purposes, rather than a helter–skelter feeling for which is best for selves. It is also (a “ten” day) more harmony among selves and harmony to a great extent is vastly important through the channeling of these messages.
Setting up on organization to handle the readings
Q Should there be an organization formed and incorporated as a nonprofit foundation to handle such matters as correspondence, typing, et cetera, in connection with these readings so as to ease these burdens on the channel and the channel’s immediate family and allow more concentrated efforts on the readings themselves? (131)
S In time as the group grows and the word and the work necessitate the same, there will be a need for an organization.
Q Would you care to suggest a name for this organization? (131)
S Not at this time.
Selection of new members (4)
Q It’ s nearly a year since this core group started, sir, and it was said we would be adding four at the end of approximately the year. Should we start preparing ourselves for the addition of four people to the core group? (10)
S This is correct, through prayer and meditation. Then reach outweighing the names in prayer and meditation. Each should submit two, no more than two. If, in truth, you have but one, name only one; if you have none, name none. Then the selection will be made from same.
Q Well, in that connection is it possible, I mean is it permissible, to discuss possible choices and analyze possible choices with each other or should we do it on our own? (10 ) S. This may be done and then taken withinside of self.
Psychic research and the channel
Q This is for (110): (188) at the University of Arizona has one or more grants for psychical or spiritual research and several other organizations and people have recommended this channel to him. Would it be acceptable or desirable for (110) to participate in this type of project in any manner? (131)
S Not at this time. We find that such offers will come from hither and yon, but the spiritual nature of this work precludes much of this. However, there will be times when through the medical and healing gifts here that will be used for the furtherance of the spiritual nature of this message–-may be channeled through different organizations or different medical set-ups.
Dog noise disrupting the reading
Q Would it be best if I leave to take care of the dog? If it’s a distraction. (180)
S It is a distraction.
Q May I go and take care of it? (180)
S In some manner.
Thought forms
Q How far can a thought form develop? (199)
S As far as the thoughts would have it. That is to say it may manifest even in the form of humanity, or as a mountain, or as that which are the elements. What else is a hurricane? What else is a monstrosity that murders fellow men? What else is an animal that is wild and full of vengeance? What else is a man that breaks the law?
Q Can a thought form make choices? Does it have free will? (199)
S Now you must understand for ye have a limited understanding, see, of thought forms The man Hitler was a manifestation of thought forms, embodied in a human, very human, entity. There are degrees of thought forms. There are manifestations of thought forms on all levels. Understand?
Q Can it develop into a soul? (199)
S No, but it may entrap a soul, even that man we have mentioned, Hitler, entrapped in the thoughts of thousands and himself. For this is the sowing and this is the reaping.
Q Can a thought form bother you in any way if it isn’t your own? (199)
S It may physically, if embodied in another, or even animal form if self is not sufficiently full of faith. Remember a thousand may fall on one hand and ten thousand on another and nothing come nigh thee; but, in the illusionary world that ye have formed for selves it is possible if faith is not sufficient, or there is not that which is the good karma to offset the bad, it can touch you but that which ye have in mind, as the ghostlike spiritual type, may not touch thee if thou will have it so.
Soul leaving the body
Q Does the body live on after the soul departs the body. Is this possible? (146)
S It can. It’s happened many times.
Q Under what circumstances and for how long can the body live without a soul? (146)
S Many times the body may function for years without the soul. The soul force is not that which is the animal force within or the animal nature of self. That can function without the body force. Usually, however, that which is the force of the soul tells the body that this is time for all cessation.
Q Is the lack of a soul in a body so living indicated by the lack of the aura? (114)
S Yes .
Q Under what circumstances does this happen? (146)
S It may happen in a variety of ways. Where the entities have been brought back from that which is death, or that the soul no longer wishes to exist and yet the animal forces within a body are so strong, or the mental forces of an entity are so strong, or the will power or desires of others involved are so strong. Many times the aged have already had their souls depart and are kept on in this world by the mental attitudes, the selfish holding of those entities’ bodies.
Q I have a question which concerns an entity whose soul has left, or is getting ready to leave. When a soul loses the ability to remember and think rationally, is the soul getting ready to leave or has it departed? For instance, in the case of (198) . (199)
S First, we would say that sometimes this is an indication that the soul is leaving. Sometimes it has left. And other times it is a learning procedure for that soul. Where the difficulties have manifested in others have brought ridicule and nonunderstanding from the soul involved (or the entity involved rather than the soul) must be learned at the soul level. This entity is being held at this time (the soul is still present), being held though by the will of that entity furthered by the will of others.
Yeast and raising forces
Q. The word “yeast” was used in connection with raising the forces in the last reading. Could you please elaborate and explain what this meant? (114)
S Even as the yeast raises the bread, raises the leaven, see, into bread, so it is used in self in the same manner to raise those forces and take the leaven of the body and turn it into that which is of the spiritual.
Aquarian age
Q When does, or did, the Aquarian age actually start? (146) S Well, that’s even in limbo, see. Each of you are the beginning of the Aquarian age.
Q In the last work reading it was given that the destination of the boat with the flock at the end of the Aquarian age is to the center of this universe. Is this universe in space-time? Please amplify on the location mentioned. (131)
S Well, each universe has a center. Even as the center of this universe is pointed to by the great pyramid, see, points to the center. This is as where the souls will gather, to flow, and away to greater, and greater, and greater understanding.
Definition: contraction
Q Please define how the word contraction is used in relation to the thought of God. What does this mean? (146)
S When God first moved, when God was first aware of Himself, this was the bringing together of God. This was the contraction. This was thought. This was God.
Holy Spirit
Q Could you please discuss the question of the Holy Spirit as it’s used? We have these various fundamental groups that claim that they have been inspired by the Holy Spirit, et cetera, such as happened to the apostles as described in Acts. Could you discuss this so we have a better understanding of what these people are talking about and how much truth there is in it? (114)
S The apostles themselves were spiritually inclined by the Christ force within reaching up and touching the God force without which was symbolized by the flames upon their head, for this was the burning flame of righteousness that came as the Holy Spirit was at work. However, most of those since are adrenalizations and wishful thinking and wish fulfillment where the mind is in a crest of self-hypnosis, self-will, self–desire, and selfishness.
Q Didn’t Christ promise to send the Holy Spirit when He left? (146 )
S He did, but not as a frothing manifestation of the ego.
Q Does He send the Holy Spirit, and to whom, and how do you know it? How does one know it? (146)
s By thy works thou shalt know when He that is the Holy Spirit, God Himself, manifests within self and touches self and thy works will be as His works, see.
Ego-self
Q When is the awareness of self, the ego-self, developed? (146)
S Well, the ego-self comes in with you, lady. You have constructed it over eons of time. The ego– self is there. It is the desires, it is the awareness of self, not as spiritual – self but as the personal – self.
Q Is this [the ego-self] what we must crucify? (146)
S Amen.
Creation
Q In discussing creation the Source stated that the bodies that man inhabits were “created in one stroke”. • What is meant by this statement? (178)
S In one stroke as that as saying the name is one stroke. The stroke was one continuous stroke not as a lightning stroke as you would see it, but a formation stroke through the naming of the name in process- –too involved for the understanding here, but much like an incantation or a formula being said. But this was formulas from the mind and the spirit coming together through the will and making into one body continuously-–no stages , no steps, a continuum, see, of the first process to the end, making one stroke, never letting up, the body not being used until it was fully rendered available to that which is the spirit of man .
Conscious, subconscious, and superconscious minds (definition)
Q Please define the terms conscious mind, subconscious mind and superconscious mind. (131)
S Well, this is quite an order. The conscious mind to the greater degree is that which you think with now, that which you reason with now, that which is the mind that is concerned with the illusionary. That is the mind that ye function with other than that, or those times, when you are in meditation or in sleep. There are layers of this conscious mind, each involved with different principles and different scopes of working area. It is as almost unlimited as the earth itself, even with those who have been classified as idiots, morons, fools, et cetera. They have the ability ever– present to be brought forward that may encompass all the knowledge and use in this world, see, but the illusionary, which it is the mind of, holds it back.
The subconscious, once again, even to use that phrase so often used in your society, is a many–splendored thing. It holds in it all that the entity has been, and is, every thought, every deed, that the entity has encouraged within self, and encountered from others. It is forever that which is the fullness of the lives and embodiments of same. It is the hope of the entity for it is the real mind and should be treated and channeled as such, that all that pours in is that which is as the future of an entity and the future being. Should be treated with the greatest of respect for mistreatment brings forth those so–called illnesses, even of insanity, of those things that influence or hurt others. And yet it is the fullness of the being. It is this mind that will be, which ye will become someday, even as a god.
The superconscious mind is that which has the force of God itself. It is the supreme part of se1f. It is the greater part of self. It, in truth, is the true subconscious mind and if it is contacted and tapped there is no end to the spiritual, to the spiritual ramifications, to the wonder. For in reaching this it is even that which is termed as freedom, the going out of self to join in the understanding of the One. Even He, the Christ in self, must be released. For this is the releasing point, the releasing theme. It is held in that which is the superconscious of self.
Q How do these relate to the personality and the soul? (131)
S In all ways, for, first of all, the personality is the assumption of all you have made of yourself and could make of yourself. The ideal personality, of course, is showing that which is as the Christ force or the highest nature of self, the freeing of oneself to be one with the Father. As to that which is as the release of same, to become that, one must first have harmony with all parts of self. The personality is that which one must develop in this life, or in the lives in the earth, to find the truth of the being. As to that which is the rest, the soul , it is the heart of the soul. The soul encompasses many things, but it is the heart of same.
Q How can we tap the superconscious mind or come in contact with it? (146)
S By first bringing peace and love into the conscious mind. By pouring the same thoughts into that which is the subconscious mind, so it becomes tranquil and at peace too and filled with that which is positive. And in so doing understanding always that it is the superconscious mind that is to guide self and make self at peace, make selves one with the Father, that it has the ability to overcome that which is the illusionary, that which is as the input that has been negative into selves, to become that which is the balance, the perfect balance, between consciousness, subconsciousness, and the soul force.
The Shepherd and the flocks
Q To whom do the flocks, that do not belong to Jesus, belong? (178)
S They belong to God; for they shall return to that which has created them, and they will know not where they have been or who they have been or what they have done, so that they may not have pain and sorrow forever.
Kundalini forces (thyroid)
Q Can you give in detail the perfected way of raising the kundalinic forces and tell how the thyroid is to be vibrated? (180)
S Well, it is not the thyroid just to be vibrated here but all. It is through the mantras, see, first of all through (and it takes years, understand) the perfecting of the touching of self’s hands upon those areas until each one has learned to vibrate through that which is as AUM or the mantras, see, the hymns. In those peoples of the East, it began as the lower centers touching with the fingertips; the four finger tips with the thumbs upward pointing as these mantras were declared, as the prayers were given, and upon the feeling and the knowledge- and there are feelings, see, to a great degree of the vibrations. Then it is moved up to the next, and the next, until all these centers vibrate at the call, not at the touch, but at the call to the meditation.
Q Is there any particular prayer which could be used with this? (180)
S It is not for this entity or any entity in this room to use. There is no less than five years would be involved with any of you in the l earning processes. First, there is none here that has devoted selves so fully to the cleansing and to the search that they could use this method. Then it is dangerous.
Animals reincarnating (soul groups)
Q Will you discuss the question of animals reincarnating and the theory of group souls? (114)
S Animal incarnation is that which the animals must come in to face, to find out, even as humans do, how it is to be one another. Yet ye do not find the crossing over of the insect into that which is the mammal, or the mammal into that which. is the bird or the fowl. Although each animal in its way comes in to find the ultimate that is love– love by people or one another or just to experience the love of the spirit in action. As to that which are group souls, groups come in at times to experience, to understand, to overcome, that which has occurred in groups. We would give that which, as example, are those souls that suffered in the Spanish Civil War of ‘36. They were those who caused grief as a group in Mexico as conquistadores. Therefore, they came back as a group. They faced group karma, and they faced individual karma, good and bad. It was a learning situation, and this is why groups come together for group experience, good or bad, and where ye have lost in this group, ye have reason to expect success.
Q I referred to the theory of animals having a group soul, like all lions having a group soul. This is the question. I didn’t express myself properly. (114)
S We understand. There is a group soul or a group mind that can be called upon when the entity, or the animal entity, is that which, say, passes from dog to cat, or from cat to bat, or from bat to rat- –any of these things. It is the learning, it is the necessary needs to fill the subconscious mind of even that animal, to the reactions that are ·necessary for its survival and its interaction with others of its species, especially.
Self-hypnosis
Q Would it be a good idea to have one or more classes in self-hypnosis for this group? (146)
S Not especially for the group.
Q For the individuals in this group? (146)
S For (110).
Satan/fallen angel/Lucifer/1000 years
Q Please discuss Satan as the fallen angel. ls he the same as Lucifer? (146)
S Well, ye have here a misconception or misunderstanding, see. Satan is that which is the personification of evil created by man and here you have again a thought form for those who would indulge in same or have that come to them. As for the fallen angel, no angel has ever fallen. What ye experience here is that which is the explanation of a higher soul who has fallen and led others to disrepute, others to use the higher motivations, the higher powers, to progress counter to that which is to the light and to the good.
Q. ls this the same as Beelzebub or the Devil? (146)
S All could be grouped as one: Satan, Beelzebub, Lucifer, Scratch, any of these.
Q What does it mean that he will be bound a thousand years? (146)
S That those selfish thoughts, that those thoughts that ye would call evil, or sinful, will be erased from mankind’s usage; that selfishness will be bound; that all that holds man back will be held away from him for those thousand years.
Q Does this thousand years refer to earth time or is it an astrological age?
S Well, it is even as the day of God, see. A thousand years in God’s keeping. (146)Q This may have been already partially answered but I’ll ask it: In the last reading is the statement about Satan being the will of mankind. Would this indicate that Satan is not a soul or an entity? (101)
s Satan is only an entity as far as those who have constructed same in thought patterns, and some~ would have him–Oh, even as much as God. It is not in a true personification. It is the will, and the will of man in action, over time; the willfulness, desires, the flesh. It is that of the illusionary world. And for those who would turn away from God in the times to come and would be those Adamic souls, there will be almost a true personification of Satan on this world.
Q During the 1000 years that Satan will be bound, and the 144,000 souls will inhabit the earth, will there be no death as we know it or will these souls continue to incarnate and reincarnate? (101)
S There will be no death for these souls as you would know death to be–no physical death. They will use the bodies perfected at that time so that they may go about their Father’s business of raising the rest, that will come in, to those abilities that will bring them forth into the light and love.
Rays
Q Do we work on different rays at different times or all rays and colors at one time? (199)
S In each experience an entity comes in on a major ray and that which is a minor ray. There is an overall ray for each entity through the eons of time. It is but that which is as a certain path. It is for all to incorporate, and to master each ray, to become as one, but few have done so. Only those who have reached that which is the escape or the freedom, even in that sense which is finding the oneness brings together in–how should we put it–an arrowhead shape bringing together these rays, these perfections, to the hub of creation.
Q In this question of a major ray and a minor ray, sir, is there a parallel here or a similarity with astrology where you have your major sign and then the sign that most affects you. Is this the same thing expressed in a different way? (114)
S No. Astrologically you must go through all the signs, too, but this is something else. The rays are that which come from the hub of life itself, see. And expresses same. Whereas astrology are those paths that are followed in a different sense even as mathematics in different forms is music.
Q How can the knowledge of which ray we came in on, or are working on, be of help to us? (101)
S Well, usually it doesn‘t. To some, however, it brings an understanding of why certain paths seem to draw them or certain colors seem to soothe them or help them or make them more spiritual, or ignite the qualities within self that would burn those drosses from the mental conditions.
Q Would it be advantageous to study (1158’s) statements in the arcane school on this question of rays? Would there be any real value in this, sir? (114)
S Some, there is some as we find it; there is some here that is excellent material. However, it must be weeded through.
Q Is (1157) qualified to do this? Does he do it well — (1157) who lectures on this subject, the South African? (114)
s Yes, this entity has quite a knowledge and purpose that is good. Yes, this entity is well qualified.
Changing the past
Q Can the past be changed by changing one’s consciousness or thoughts by the vibrations sent forth? (199)
S First of all, dwell not on the past, but on the path that leads away. The past cannot be changed. It is part of se1ves. It is part of the 1earning. It is part of becoming, of being a god; to know, to have the experiences in the fullness, that in creation you may know. The past is not changed–merely understood and placed in the proper perspective.
Universe evolving
Q Is God evolving, as we are told we are in an evolving universe? (178)
S God created the universe to evolve. God is perfect, ever has been perfect, and needs nothing more. God is evolved in perfection; but the rest, aha, the rest are evolving.
Q Was Hermes the same entity as Jesus? (178)
S Yes.
UFO’s
Q Are UFOs entities created by the minds of those wishing to have interstellar communication as a material fact? (114)
S A majority! But there is that minority that are vehicles bent upon many purposes, mostly observation; some of a higher nature and others of a lower nature. Both embodiments, by the way, of the nature of man taking two different courses with the same, or almost the same, basic technology and to face their own way out.
Q Do they originate within this solar system, or are they from without, sir? (114)
S Without.
Jesus meeting karma
Q When Jesus accepted crucifixion and set the example of overcoming material death, was any karma from previous lives involved? (114)
S Well, yes. He that led in, must lead the way out. Isn’t that karma?
Names for God (Eaell)
Q In describing the fullness of God’s name with Lord, with God, with Christ, with Messiah, the Source used another name unfamiliar to us: Eaell. How is this name spelled and what aspect of God does this name describe? (146)
S Well, this was a name that was used in times of old, even in those times of Atlantis, see, to an extent in the secret rituals passed on for some time beyond Atlantis. This is spelt as close as possible in your language as E-a–e-l-l. This connotates “The One”.
Earth as an entity
Q It was said that the earth is an entity. Does it have a consciousness? (146)
S It has a consciousness; it has an understanding; it has a thought process.
Q How can we as entities attain an attunement with that entity [the earth]? (146)
S By loving it, and appreciating it, and acknowledging it. Q
Christing of Jesus/Baptism/crucifixion
Q The Source mentioned christing of Jesus in connection with His baptism and also the crucifixion. Please advise if this happened more than once. (199)
S It happened each time after that time that John baptized, when the spirit of the Lord met the spirit of the Christ within, and God was.
Other psychic sources and channels
Q What is the relationship between the entity (857) who speaks through (858) and (858) herself? (131)
s (857) is that which is a thwarted individual entity of great knowledge, it’s true, and yet stymied and thwarted as to that which would have done in the physical; now using the plane of–the third plane of the spiritual to contact this entity. Has been in contact with this entity in the physical life before, even close to this entity, being as even that would be termed teacher or guru, and once in matrimonial ties.
Q (857) has stated that an entity’s action in this present life affects the entity’s past lives as well as the entity’s future lives. Would you comment on this please? (131)
s Incorrect. The past cannot be changed, only clarified, and made whole. That which is the truth is that the future lives are touched by what you do today, for what you do today is you tomorrow.
Q (1160) related in her book (1162) written with (1161) that she believed Savonarola was the reincarnation of Estanbul who eventually became her husband in this life as (1181). Is this possible or true? (178)
S This is a wish of the entity rather than a fact.
Q She (1160) also describes a Lord Darios as being Lucifer’s brother, and in whose palace she resides on another planet between lives. Is this possible? (178)
S This is not possible. The entity does not go there. There is no brother of Lucifer; only those who would be brothers of Lucifer and there are many. This is another vocalization of an internal longing.
Q Is there any truth in (1160’s) recall under regression–through the efforts of (1161) — that she was the mother of Mary Magdalene and described the Christ as she saw Him? (114)
S This is a correct experience.
Dreams/visions interpreted
Q Now this is a question for (110): earlier this week (110) had a dream in which he found himself in prison. A woman who had a large packet of stamps, which were obviously quite valuable, tore the packet approximately in half and gave the channel one portion. The channel didn’t know how many stamps were there, but was estimating in his own mind that he had received about 500,000, when an old pro came up to him and told him that there were 250,000 stamps there. It seems that each stamp permitted an exit from a window in an upper room of the prison. As these were airmail stamps, with planes upside down, we assume that this symbolizes inner air travel, that is spiritual travel to the inner subjective realms. And we assume that the prison symbolized the material body of the channel, but we would like for you to interpret some of the other elements of the dream, please. (131)
S We have the dream so mentioned. This is as the connection between that which is the superconscious, the conscious, and the subconscious, with that which is as the entity conscious mind receiving the stamps or the way in the manner of seven, being that which is the seven as noted in the scriptures, and even the sevens of the body, the spiritual sevens from that which is the superconscious and that which is the cautioning one that points out the true meaning rather than the other meaning which here is spiritual and financial (pointing to the spiritual rather than to the financial) is that which is the subconscious mind that is being regrouped and knows the ropes, see. As to that which is the escape, this is as that which is the going in. We see the fence keeping out that which is as the interference of the will who is “the guardian”, or thinks it’s the guardian of the mind, the soul, and so forth. You can get by the will by applying that which is the caution, the understanding, and the faith.
Q Did the woman symbolize the subconscious then? (131)
S The superconscious.
Q And of course the window was, and the upper room was, going out through, I presume, one of the spiritual centers or chakras? (131)
S Correct.
Q What was the destination on these journeys? (131)
S The destination is that to prepare the way to give to mankind that which is the gift of the spirit; the seven, the 250,000, putting aside the 500,000, which is as the material gain which is possible.
Q You mentioned a guard because the dream did continue with (110) exiting through the window on his first journey and climbing over the walls and fences. And after surmounting the last barrier he saw a guard coming and not knowing how he should act or how the guard would react, he struck out boldly and waved to the guard. The guard looked puzzled and scratched his head and the channel woke up with the thought that he should not have called attention to himself. (131)
S This is as the faith. Who needs to signal anyone if ye have the faith?
Q May (110) be present during discussions of past readings if questions for future readings are not designed in his presence? (178)
S This is correct. Q
Business/work advice
Q We have an opportunity to purchase a government surplus twenty-five kilowatt diesel generator set for one thousand dollars or less from a man in Los Angeles. As the repair has not been quite completed, there is some possible risk that something else to purchase this as is, at its presently available low price for use by (661)? (131)
S Well, this is up to selves to decide among selves in a peaceful manner. We find that there are pros and cons here. The bringing in of such machinery in the long run could be of great benefit. However, the immediate results would be a testing of the patience and understanding of the entities so present. Therefore, weigh it carefully, for the long-run benefit may not be worth the short-run risk.
Q It seems as though I’ve been directed in a way to take some classes at the University with the six units being given free. And I’m wondering if it was a wrong choice by getting involved in a class that demands a great deal or work, or is this work going to help me in the future in terms of children and having more free time? (199)
S Anything may be used to help. But is there not the tempter here to use, to rationalize in some depth? Is it not, to an extent, vanity? Be careful of such things, for in this entity we find the willfulness that often leads into paths of destruction. Are there not easier methods for the entity to judge herself, or space herself? But this, of course, is of the entity’s own selection and free will. Be careful in such things for it is temptation.
Q Would you please comment on how deeply involved this questioner should become in (114’s) land development projects in Cochise County? I would appreciate any suggestions or recommendations that you would give me in this matter. (131)
S To the depth this entity would have it. However, there will come a time that this entity will be called to other duties and other places and others will take the place in this enterprise. This entity must learn to compact self or direct self in one line, instead of many lines. That is not to say, not to acquire knowledge of disciplines, or knowledge of other understandings or other ways so that this entity may use them to the greater advantage of this group, or better, the movement.
Physical readings for members, family and friends
Q Should the entity, (114), take time out this summer from developing the project in Cochise County to have a cataract operation on his left eye? (114)
s This entity should take time out every so often to relax the body, the mind, and the spiritual forces, to renew those same forces within self. Yes, it could be done for this entity, and especially if the entity will involve self into finding peace within self that is so necessary for this entity to do those works to the higher degree the entity would have them, and we would see them done.
Q May I have clarification, please, on the exercises that I was given. On this one about rolling back and sideways on a pillow, should I be face up or face down? (178)
S Face down, but gently.
Q Should the pillow go lengthwise or crosswise? (178)
S Crosswise.
Q And on the one with the heel and toe: I suppose that means going up forward, raising up on my toes and down on my heels. Are my arms to be up throughout? (178)
S As you go up on the toes, raise the arms gently and only to the extent that it is not bothersome to the abdominal area, with palms outward and slowly upward in a rising motion.
And now my brothers and sisters, I am pleased at that which has been the questioning, and the type of questions that are beginning to evolve or evolve from this group.
We would give the blessing of the Father and the Son, of love upon each and every individual here and ask ye in truth, in the truth of thy being, to find that which is peace with thyselves and thy neighbor.
We ask this that ye may be as the Light that we use in that which is our return. We are through with this reading at this time.